"Long-Voyager" (long-voyager)
04/03/2018 at 07:10 • Filed to: Dots
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"Long-Voyager" (long-voyager)
04/03/2018 at 07:10 • Filed to: Dots | 6
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Sorry for the crummy image, not one for grabbing pics while driving, but this Lumina was spotless. A little dirty (guessing they live on a gravel road), but gorgeous:
PartyPooper2012
> Long-Voyager
04/03/2018 at 08:16 |
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spotless Lumina.... had dirt spots....Fascinating.
This car drove me nuts then... and drives me nuts now. How can you have a Lumina 4 door Sedan, a 2 door coupe and a Minivan?
Arrivederci
> PartyPooper2012
04/03/2018 at 08:18 |
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Maybe Chevy out-Prius’d Toyota before Prius-ing was cool. They offered different sizes of Lumina just like Toyota offers different sizes/varieties of Prius.
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PartyPooper2012
> Arrivederci
04/03/2018 at 08:30 |
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There is never any confusion as to what a prius is. Its a 4 door electric golf cart with gasoline engine. It’s always 4 door and trim and size vary tiny bit.
Lumina was like fuck it... we make a coupe, a van, a bulldozer and a 747
bhtooefr
> PartyPooper2012
04/03/2018 at 08:54 |
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Except when it’s not 4 door:
Also, Toyota’s had far more egregrious naming.
Depending on where in the world you were, a Corolla could - at the same time - be one of the following:
A compact sedan
A compact hatchback (known as the Auris in most markets, but some called it the Corolla)
A subcompact sedan (Corolla Axio)
A subcompact wagon (Corolla Fielder)
A mini-minivan (Corolla Verso)
A... second-gen Scion xB (Corolla Rumion)
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PartyPooper2012
> bhtooefr
04/03/2018 at 09:25 |
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dang...
WilliamsSW
> PartyPooper2012
04/03/2018 at 09:31 |
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The 3.1 was a real dog in the bulldozer though.
Urambo Tauro
> PartyPooper2012
04/03/2018 at 09:40 |
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Don’t forget the Lumina ute!
https://oppositelock.kinja.com/this-is-a-lumina-1823620218
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PartyPooper2012
> Urambo Tauro
04/03/2018 at 09:47 |
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Well, I didn’t know it existed but I am not surprised. I will only be surprised if there is not a lumina bulldozer, lumina train or a lumina jet engine airplane. Musk must make Lumina Space X shuttle. Russians must make Lumina submarine. Schwinn must make Lumina unicycle, bicycle and tandem bicycle.
Lumina All things!
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Long-Voyager
> PartyPooper2012
04/03/2018 at 10:13 |
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spotless Lumina.... had dirt spots....Fascinating.
Other than mild dirt from driving, the thing had no dents, no faulty paint, etc. It just needed a quick wash.
shop-teacher
> Long-Voyager
04/03/2018 at 10:14 |
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My hatred for these knows no bounds. I literally would not take one for free, I hate them that much. And yes, I have driven them. Two of them. Ankle-breaking piles of vitriolic shit, designed and assembled with utter contempt for their end users.
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Long-Voyager
> shop-teacher
04/03/2018 at 10:16 |
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The 3.8 versions were damn reliable family haulers.
I’m not a fan of the seating layout and the giant dash would bother me, but it was impressively clean for a WI vehicle.
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shop-teacher
> Long-Voyager
04/03/2018 at 10:22 |
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It is very clean for a rust belt vehicle, but I’d still like to see it die in a tire-fire. These things were piles of shit. I’m a GM guy, but the dustbuster vans were atrocious in every way.. The 3800 is bullet-proof, but it was still put into that ... THING.
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Long-Voyager
> shop-teacher
04/03/2018 at 10:24 |
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What is so bad about them?
Honest question.
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PartyPooper2012
> Long-Voyager
04/03/2018 at 10:43 |
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busting your chops... All good.
In slightly unrelated note - I have not washed my car in nearly a year and half. Washed it this Saturday. Sunday it looked exactly as it did on Friday.
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PartyPooper2012
> WilliamsSW
04/03/2018 at 10:56 |
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Todd Hoffman knows this
3.1 Bulldozer used by Todd Hoffman. Bulldozer is fairly weak as Todd can’t get any gold out of the ground.
Censored
> Long-Voyager
04/03/2018 at 11:07 |
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Holy Shutter Roll. That or I need to go to the eye dr.
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Long-Voyager
> Censored
04/03/2018 at 12:02 |
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Lol, it’s skewed from the curve in my windshield.
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Long-Voyager
> PartyPooper2012
04/03/2018 at 12:05 |
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Damn, if my vehicles make it over a week without washing I feel like I’m neglecting them.
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PartyPooper2012
> Long-Voyager
04/03/2018 at 12:20 |
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I really felt like I was neglecting it. Then I washed it and few minutes later it looked same as before washing. It reminded me why i have not washed it in a year and a half.
To be fair... it’s all about the color of the car. If it were black, I could see me washing it every day. Its silvery blue. Can’t see anything on it. It’s amazing and bland at the same time.
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shop-teacher
> Long-Voyager
04/03/2018 at 13:12 |
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I will do my best to give you an honest, unbiased answer (which is BS because I hate them so much!)
Let me start by describing the ergonomics of the driving position. The drivers seat is low and close to the dash, but the gas pedal is up quite high. In order to get your foot on the gas pedal, you have to bend your foot back as far as it will possibly go, to the point that I found them physically painful to drive. I have short legs, and had the seat back as far as it would go. It felt like my ankle was going to break.
Then there’s the quality of the interior, both in the materials and the outright strength (or lack thereof). Mind you, I’m no interior snob. I’d happily drive that Bonneville you posted for many years and many miles. I have no problems with the sea of grey plastic that is my base model GMT-800 interior. The Lumina APV took shitty interior quality to a whole other level. It would actually be funny, if they didn’t charge people money to buy those things. I would say interior by PlaySkool, but that would be wildly insulting to the fine folks at the PlaySkool corporation.
The plastics were so hard and brittle they rattled fresh from the factory, and broke if you looked at them funny. My father-in-law owned one from new. The driver’s seat arm rest broke within’ the first week. The first of many times under warranty, given up on out of warranty. Which, as soon as he got there, the seat back adjuster broke allowing the driver’s seat back to flop around like a fish. From then on it was propped up by pillows wedged on the seat behind it. After eight years, countless alternators (it ate alternators for breakfast), having the spare tire winch rust out and drop the spare on the road, years of reaching under the car to pull the gas door release cable because there was no point in replacing it with another one that would break again in a couple weeks .... it really just went on and on ... he basically gave it back to the dealer and took home a new Cavalier, crank windows, manual locks and all, a car that he loved and still talks about in glowing terms. My father-in-law is a very easy man to please, but even he hated that Lumina APV under no uncertain terms.
I was tasked 8-9 years ago now with selling my then girlfriend’s aunt’s ‘93 Lumina APV. It was fully loaded, as nice as they got, and only had 82k well cared for miles on it. As it shook and shivered and shimmied its way back to my place, alternator bearings howling and wishing for the sweet relief that death would provide, my right ankle half broken from this farce of an ergonomic nightmare, I screamed at the top of my lungs ... to the nobody else in the van with me .... “No wonder GM went bankrupt! They foisted millions of these pieces of shit onto poor, unsuspecting bastards!”
Everything about the experience of driving these, and there was another one in my life I really don’t even want to talk about, screamed of arrogance. By that I mean, it felt like the people responsible for that vehicle just went, “Screw it, those idiots will buy anything.” It felt like they had actual contempt for those who would buy and drive them.
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Long-Voyager
> shop-teacher
04/03/2018 at 15:56 |
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Wow.
Thanks for that.
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shop-teacher
> Long-Voyager
04/03/2018 at 18:44 |
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No problem. As you can see, it’s an opinion based in actual experience.
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Long-Voyager
> shop-teacher
04/04/2018 at 07:14 |
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I’ve considered picking one up, as I’ve always kinda liked the look, but I’ve never been in one to know.
The one I do have experience with was bought by a friend with 340k on the clock, so I was guessing the inside going to hell was just from thousands of miles.
I appreciate the experience, I’ll keep my head out of them. Although the thought of a supercharged 3.8L minivan is still very enticing. ;)